From: "Stacy Richards" (Stacy.Richards@RaymondJames.com)
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: n/a
Date: Friday, February 21, 2003 10:26 AM
It is so nice to finally find stories of Hell House on the net. I graduated from Atholton H.S. (in Columbia) in 1994, and I can tell you that there was a group of us that used to frequent the grounds around Hell House. I was never shot by any rubber bullets or salt pellets, as I had always heard stories of, but I did hear dogs barking, and did frequently experience very strange things while trying to get up enough nerve to go to the front door. I only touched the door once, then ran as fast as I could to get away. I know that there are a lot of urban legends that surround the history of hell house, and sometime our minds get the better of us, but I can tell you that I always felt something very strange when I was there. It was also fun to go in a large group to see who would chicken out before getting close to the front door. Being a girl, I would particularly enjoy when one of the guys would stay back at the car because they were too scared. Sometimes we would cross the bridge (on the train tracks) and climb up some of the rocks, because from there you truly have one of the best views of hell house. At any rate, just wanted to say thanks for posting something. Now my fiancé will finally believe all my stories!!
From: "Ian Boyd" (headcrush@msn.com)
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: MD Hell House
Date: Saturday, August 30, 2003 1:36 PM
I went to the "Hell House" in Elicott City in Mid-October about 3 years ago. There was 4 of us, 3 guys and a girl. We parked down on the road by the paper mill (or cement plant), in between two big rig trailers so as to not be visible to any officers of the law who might pass by. Adjacent to the small gravel area where the trailer rigs were chocked, there was a long, broad stone staricase we walked up that led to a forested area through which we had to walk to get the the main building, there was somewhat of a path through this area that led to the driveway right in front of the main building. This is where I viewed something very interesting. We had flashlights, and by shining them up on the building you could see the majority of the outside brick had been charred. This was ballsy (as well as not very smart) to shine a flashlight up on the building with blatant disregard for anyone (or anything) who might be disturbed by our presence. We were all mostly skeptic and at this point not scared. Anyway, the majority of the outside brick mainly near the windows was charred black, however near the top of the building, front and center recessed in the brick is a small white statue of a virgin Mary, which still appeared to be pure white. Now there may be a perfectly good explanation for this, but it was still strange and disturbing, to me anyway. We continued to walk around the left side of the main building and around to the back where there was a concrete stair that we began to ascend. Halfway up, myself and one other person stopped to get a look at the back of the building as the other 2 people continued to walk the stairs. In one of the windows at the top floor to my far left I saw a light flash. Not a bright light like that of a flashlight or camera flash, but a faint blue flicker that was visible but did not really illuminate the surrounding area. The best way I can describe it would be like an electrical spark in mid-air. This startled me considerably, mostly since the building was just a shell, I knew there was no "floor" at the 4th floor level and therefore ruled out human activity as the source of the light. Still I said nothing, thinking I was the only one whod seen it, maybe my eyes played tricks on me. A few seconds later my accomplice stopped and said "Did you see that?" "The light in the window?" I replied "Yeah that one." he answered and pointed at the same window I had seen the light apparition in. "Lets get the fuck out of here." he said. We got the others and explained to them what we had seen and started heading back down to the driveway at the front of the building. The other two didnt seem fazed by our account of what we saw, it actually made them want to get inside the building. So we walked around the right side of the building in search of a door or ground level window, to this day I dont know why we didnt try the front door..... Anyway as we walked around the right side we stopped and heard leaves crunching underfoot, followed by growls and chains, right then we knew it must be the caretakers dogs. They didnt bark, but we could hear them running, getting closer and dragging what sounded like chains. Obviously we ran like hell. The footfalls sounded huge, and Im assuming the dogs were large shepherds or rottweilers... I dont know what overcame but for reasons I cant explain I stopped dead in my tracks and turned around to see.... nothing. Nothing at all. Yet the sounds came closer, paws hitting the dirt, chains, and growling, sounded as if the dogs were right up on me, yet I saw nothing. By now the other 3 had ran past me back through the woods down the path we had came up, I made my own path through the underbrush and ran down the stone staircase as fast as I could to meet up w the others. We wasted no time getting in the van and getting the hell out of there... Im still a skeptic to this day, not ruling out the possibility that there are logical explanations for what I experienced there.. but I havent found those explanations yet, so as far as Im concerned the Hell House hosts an array of malevolent spirits. Something happened there that someone doesnt want you to know about.
From: ??
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Date: October 23, 2003
Subject: hell house in ellicott city
i don't know if you are still posting info on hell house but i have some if you are. I live right at the end of river road and often visit ellicott city n the area surrounding hell house. Hell house was once st. marys school for girls as you know and yes it did burn down once awhile ago and again in 1998. And as far as rumors of the grounds keeper with the dogs this is also very true. I knew someone who was actually close friends with him suprisingly. He is no longer there he died. there is some controversy surrounding his death but he is most certainly dead. Some say he dies from insanity from being there so long others say he was killed by a random kid visiting there who in a painc shot him (this is very unlikely). others say he was just old. And in regards to the plant nearby it is a recycled paper mill that also recenly went up in flames i happened to drive by on the exact day it happened. There are many other stories surround! ing the ellicott city area it has a mystic appeal to many. there are often ghost tours which never truly show you much but are still interesting. Another local legend which is widespeard amongst the local goths punks and witchs down there is of a hanging that took place near a parking lot at the end of college avenue. The hanging is supposedly of a very powerful white which somewheres around the time period of the salem witch trials i suppose people tend to be very vauge about it. but going there and just sitting you start to get a feeling of something paramormal about the place. but yes back to hell house. i've only been once n it was very interesting for me i was only a kid at the time 8 or 9 i think. i'm 18 now so not that long ago. I have a very good memory as far as places i've been and the like and apperently my dad my sister (who memory is very very poor she asks me to order for her at resturants cuz she forgets what she likes) n my dad's friend! and her daughter we walked up after swimming in the river and went around back i suppose when we were soon chased off by the gaurd and his dogs. i say this story even though it seem to have relavence i say because my entire life i've been kinda "involved" in paranormal things i'm now studying celtic religions do accupunture and have been known to see random things not off this world. and for some unknow reason as trumatic as this event was for the rest of my family (my sister still shudders to think of it) i have absolutely no recolection what so ever of ever going there. Also the one time since then that i've been i didn't quite make it. it was only a few months ago i went again with my dad n we walked from the local state park off of hilltod road. and crossed the train tracks n approached the stairs. i got to the first step and was filled with such a sense of fear and dread i basically ran away i also happened to bring my dog that day and my dog who! i've never seen truly afraid, yelped and ran away with her tail b/t her legs as we approached. Whether hell house is trult haunted or not i've seen no evidence to prove or disprove. However visiting hell house is as much a test of people perception as anything. people who go there fearing nothing and not expecting to see anything seldom do feel anying but a sense of urgency in the air. and others who go to see ghost and such tend to see ghost. people who go just to explore the grounds find tons of hidden rooms n such but nothing more. Hell house is something that only truly exsist in the eye of the beholder. and good luck on your next visit
From: "Rachael Bassett" (punkin12984@yahoo.com)
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: About Hell House
Date: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:51 PM
My first time ever going to Hell House was about a year and a half ago, really late at night with my friend David. I had never been there and he wanted to take me, so off we went. we live about 15 minutes away from it, over in columbia. on our way, it started sprinkle a little bit, but we kept going. we parked in the old factory (and yes it does exist, its on the road leading up to Hell House) and started up the never ending staircase that seems to lead just starit up into nothingness, and yes, i mean straitup, it is rediculously steep, with no railings. halfway up, there was a loud crack of lightening followed by a boom and it started POURING, and needless to say, it didnt make the stairs any easier to get up. we got up to the top of the stiars, and there it was, the grand Hell House looming up in front. the storm started getting much worse and there was a muddy trail we would have to go up leading to the house. we decided not to go up on account of the storm and the fact that i almost killed myself on those stairs (there is one step on the stairs that is HUGE, like the step below it is missing and when you go down it, it seems like it never ends, and i slid and david had to catch me haha). we turned to go back and we heard a weird faint whisteling, and we were about to blame it on the wind when we heard dogs barking, we decided to get our booties OUT of the there. we wenrent afraid of ghosts, but we were afraid of crazy old men with dogs.
Now i havent gone for a long time since then until last night. yes, i was at hell hosue last night. my friend called me up at midnight and said she was going with a bunch if her coworkers from Target and wanted me there cuz she still didnt know them very well and she knows im into all that "ghost shit" as she put it, haha. well we all meet up at target and there is 13 total, we did a count so we wouldnt lose anyone. we drove up into ellicott city and parked at the old factory and, flashlights in hand, and everyone hand in hand because they were freaked out, i was pretty ho hum about it all, we started to make our way up my favorite stair case. it wanst raining this time so it was much easier but it was quite a workout. we made our way up the first stair case and then started up the woodsy trail, and suddenly, these two men come out of fricking no where. they looked about in their forties, and well, a teeny bit hillbillyish. they had these crazy southern accents and were wearing plaid shirts and torn jeans and carrying huge flashlights, and one looked like he had a gun in his pocket, so we were all kind of like ehh. i didnt really care for being around them so me and my friend and a few other people sort of backed off while a few of our manly boys talked to guys. then, our boys came back and said that the Men claimed they had an office up there and that they will show us around up there and show us the graveyard and the dungeon. i was like, dungeon? what? but we started walking with the two guys, still weirded out by them and figured wed rather have these guys in sight rather then following us trying to scare us and being weird. then one of the gusy started talking about how 15 minutes earlier there was a guy up in hell house running around with a shotgun claiming he had just escaped from some mental facility and that he was looking to kill his brother, and they made him leave. i dont kno whether they were trying to scare us or not but they were weirding me out, but we kept going cuz we figured it was too late to turn back now and we'd rather not be alone. he (by this time there was only one guy left, i have NO idea where the other one disppeared to), but he took us up by this huge pile of crap next to the house (like wood planks and old sinks and what not) and he kicked a few peices away and low and behold, there was a dungeon. it was a square hole in the ground with a ladder leading down and it looked like there was something living in it. we were like Okkkk and then we started climbing some rusty crap leading into the house, and it looked liek it was gonna crash on our heads. then my friend ryan cut his hand on an old rusty...stove or sink or something, so we turned to go back out of the hosue because it was dangerous and we didnt feel liek having to get tetnis shots that night. then the Man took us up another trail past the hosue and we came upon another house looking thing with stuff growing around it and there was a little shed with a HUGE pool next to it. these people must have been rish or something. the water in it reached the top and was green and murky and someone threw a rock into it and made a huge thick PLOP sound and released some sort of sickening smell so we kept walking, where we came up to about a dead end with these two broken down trailors with graffitti all over them. then the guy was like...this is my stop. we were like eh? your leaving? and he was like yah im going home and he disappeared behind the trailors and we were like whaaaaat the hell. i wonder if he lived in one and his friend in the other? freaky. then we kind of realized we were alone and then noticed another trail leading off behind the trailors with some headstones. i assume that was the graveyard, i didnt get a good look at them, because there we were so many of us and people were pushing to see so i said screw it. we kept walkingdown the dark trail and sliding on dirt and rocks and everyone slipping because by then only 2 of our flashlights were working, and let me tell you two crappy flashlights amongst 13 freaked out teenagers on a pretty much moonless night is not fun. after a long walk including the staircase we made it back to our cars and then in the light of the headlights we looked down at our arms and hands and noticed that some of us had blood streaked on our arms. some claimed it was rust but it definently wasnt because it was frickin dripping down my arms, like it was splashed on, and none of us got cut by anything, soooo....yah, we didnt know what to make of that. our only weird things were the two creepy men and the blood on our arms, we didnt see an old man, didnt hear dogs we didnt see an old priest with bloody hands. id love to see the priest tho, nothing like seeing a dead bloody priest to shock you back into reality. i recommend people going and visiting, its a fun group activity late at night, kinda weirds everyone out, but, for the love of God, BE CAREFUL. those steps are really dangerous and going into hell house is even more dangerous cuz the place IS falling apart and ryan DID get a small cut on his leg from something rusty, he will probably need to get a shot for it. email me back if you see the weird 2 men or anything else of interest!!!
From: MandaBear5420@aol.com
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: Hell House
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2003 10:49 PM
I live near the Hell House and me and my friends go up there often. I have heard so many stories about that place. The first time I went up there, we could hear dogs barking so we left. I have visited it many times during the day and it is actually a very fascinating place. If you walk far enough along a trail behind the college there is an iron cross and even farther back is a pool and old bath house, completely abandoned. The Female Institute isn't nearly as scary. Its kinda boring actually. But last night me and my friends went up there and the gate that is always closed was wide open, swinging in the wind. Its was so freaky, it seemed like the beginning to a horror story. If you have any thoughts on this, just email me back, thanks
Amanda
From: Alopez099@aol.com
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: hell house
Date: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:08 PM
I just wanted to write and say that I am glad you have a spot on your site for hell house. I have been doing a lot of research on the place recently and it has been very helpful to go on to sites like yours and see the different perspectives on what it is and what has happened there.
However, some things were wrong in the explanations i saw on your site. Hell House, formerly known as St. Mary's Seminary and College, was never an all girls school. It was a school for priests of the redemptorist order from the late 1800's until the early 1970's. Local urban legends do claim that there was some sort of crazy priest that killed five girls in the way you mentioned, however in all my research i have not found any documents that support that story... not to say it is not true in light of the fact that the catholic church would want to cover cover details such as those up.
Some more modern legands about the grounds i have (to my surprise) found to be true. Like the man who guarded the grounds. His name is Allen Rufus Hudson, although most trespassers refer to him as old man Rufus. He was hired a long time ago by the owner of the grounds at the time. He did keep dogs up there, records state that they were Rotties but many people who claim to be chased by them say they were german shepherds. Hudson lived there for over 20 years, trying to make sure no one vandalized the grounds. He did have a gun, but from what i understand it did have real bullets. In fact, he was arrested for shooting a trespasser in 1996. After a fire burned hell house down in 1997 police were called to investigate a skull found in the rubble. Hudson let his dogs loose on the police and they shot and killed both of the rotties. the skull was later determined to be that of a deer.
In the 70's there were many accounts of a strange cult living on the grounds of hell house. people who trespassed on the grounds during that time claim that people in cloaks and white face pait would chase them away. well... about that... haha... during that time the priests still had the building and i am afraid to say that the strange cult was just men of the cloth trying to get irritating trespassers off their property.
I am really not trying to discredit anyones storys or personal experiences. I have just done a lot of research into the rich history of the building. And above all else i must say that there is a strange aura around the grounds. They do hold a secret that i am still trying to uncover. And, the fact that a fire was started twice... the first one was started a year before it was completely burned down. Only two rooms were damaged though, and the cause was never found. also... just a little interesting fact.. hell house was completely burned down on halloween night 1997. the cause for that fire is unkown also, but many think it may have been occult practices.
I am still trying to get documents that state the reason for the catholic church's selling of the property. I am hoping to get some information on the legends of the crazy priest... wheather they prove the story to br wrong or right.
From: "corrine zichos" (corrinezichos@msn.com)
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: Hell House
Date: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:21 PM
I've been to Hell House a dozen times. I unfortunately never got to see it before it burned down. I've always gone up there during the day with friends. It isn't too creepy during the day.
Two times my best friend and I got the courage to go up at night. The first time we didn't make it 5 feet away from our car before we started seeing things and ran back.
The second time was at sunset and I had bought a brand new flashlight for the occasion. We were walking around using it, even though we didn't really need it, and it wasn't scary at all. We heard dogs barking, but it was very far away. As soon as we started to walk around to the back of the building, it seemed to get dark very quick. We started to get scared and then my flashlight stopped working. It was brand new with new batteries. I took it apart and put it back together and it still didn't work. We ran back to our car and as soon as we closed the door, it started working again.
Another story is when my best friend went up there and they saw a man with a gun chasing them and she fell down the main stairs near the train bridge. She said he had dogs and he chased her and her sisters very far and once they got to the bottom of the stairs, they didn't hear or see anything.
-Lisa
From: MrBiggs102@aol.com
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: (no subject)
Date: Saturday, December 20, 2003 10:54 AM
Yea I went to hell house last night and it's not made out to what it seems like in order to get there you have to go past the factory that looks abandon and go under the railroad bridge then park on your right hand side in a little dirt area. Then there is a hill go up the hill and move towards the railroad tracks and while your walking to the railroad tracks look on your left for steps then everything else is self explanatory. But yea I went there last night and me and my friends couldn't not find it, we were on river road but we didn't go far enough yet we saw the old factory and explore that. It looked like nobody worked there the windows are all broken doors boarded up and everything so we looked saw old foot prints in the snow and left. So we go farther up the road past the bridge and something told me to look right. So we got out of the car and walked up the hill and sure enough I found steps. So we walked up the steps and there was "Hell House" we explored it and everything me and a couple of my other friends walked in the fallen down house and around. There's like 4-6 other buildings around it that you can visit but to me it wasn't al that scary it just looked liked a burnt down building nobody got scared until they heard a scream, but then it turned out to be the screeching noise of the train.
From: Jimswifey23@aol.com
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: Hell House Horror
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 5:04 PM
I finally have enough courage to share this story with all of you. I never realized how many people have had so many paranormal experiences. So here goes nothing.
I was seventeen years old and was living in Catonsville, Maryland. I had just moved to Maryland from North Carolina in 1996. I was living with my sister and needless to say, things didn't work out. I ended up meeting this guy and we started dating. Next thing I knew, things were getting worse at home so I decided to move in with him in his apartment.
He was originally from Maryland and had always been a sort-of "bad boy". We both were into paranormal activity and stories. He had a horrible experience with an Ouija board before he met me. He was dating this girl and she was always messing with the board. She was contacted by a spirit and the spirit wanted to talk to him instead of her. The girl ended up being possessed by the spirit and was later exorcised. The spirit vowed he would come back for him later in time. That was the beginning of the problems.
He started telling me about this place called," Hell House" that was located in Ellicott City, Maryland. He thought that it would be really cool to take me there and show me what it was like. So, one evening, we set out with a couple of friends to go and explore this place.
Now, you need to know a little about Hell House to understand why people were so intrigued by it. There are a couple of versions of this story, but this is the one that I know. Hell House was actually named Saint Mary's College. It was a college for Catholic girls. The school was running well until the Priest started having unholy lustful thoughts. He tried to repent and still could not satisfy his hunger. The Priest started sexually assaulting the nuns. The nuns were to afraid to go against Priest but begged him to repent his sinful ways. The Priest did not listen and kept assaulting the nuns. Well, one of the nuns finally stood up and went to the Archbishop and told him what was happening. The Priest was then thrown out of the college but vowed that he would return and that all would repay. Well, one night there was startling screams coming from the dormitory. When that nuns arrived to see what was wrong they found five of the school girls dead. The girls had been placed in the shape of a Pentagram. Authorities tried to find the Priest, but he was never to be found. Reportedly, the nuns were then possessed by demons. It is said that the nuns later massacred the rest of the students. Shortly after the college was closed. The owners placed a caretaker on the premises to guard the old college to protect it from vandalism and "noisy" teenagers. He had rottweilers on the premises to help "chase" out any trespassers. It was said that screams and laughter could be heard throughout the premises and in the tunnels underneath.
It was around eleven at night when we arrived at Hell House. Hell House sat on the top of a hill and there were three ways to get to it. Two were blocked by iron gates and one was a steep staircase entrance. We parked the car by the stairway entrance and stepped out of the car laughing. It was such a thrill to be there and the pure notion of seeing a spirit or hearing the screams was terrifying...yet exciting. The stairs were very steep and broken beer bottles lay on every other step. Foliage was growing within the cracked stone. All in all, it was a very scary sight.
I watched as my boyfriend started ascending the stairs. A horrible feeling came across me and settled in my gut. I couldn't go up those stairs. My boyfriend noticed I was uneasy but insisted I come up. Our friends were lagging behind and talking amongst themselves. Very cautiously, I started walking up those stairs. Now, I have a Christian background and have always been taught that if I truly feel something evil and it is trying to get to me to say, "Satan, I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ." I was a good ways up those stairs and my feelings just got worst. So, I said what I had been taught that would help me. I quietly muttered those words. Only I could hear what I said, so it was a suprise to me when my boyfriend looked back down at me,(who by the way, had almost reached the top) and said," Jessica, run, you've pi$$ed him off!."
Now let me tell you, it is really hard to run down steep stairs in the pitch black night, but let me tell you, I ran like hell. I reached the bottom and got off those stairs and my feelings started to ease. At the same time, I was mixed with fear and a horrible emotion. My boyfriend came down and said that a voice had told him he had heard me, and that I had made him very angry. I asked my boyfriend to repeat what I had said and he told me every word.
There is no way my boyfriend could have heard me. He was too far up those steps and I had said it coming short to a whisper. There is more to this story, because that spirit followed us home. I later found out that my boyfriend had run into this spirit before.
If you want to hear the rest of the story, I would be glad to finish it. Just email me and let me know.
As for the boyfriend, he is not necessarily of a good origin or character. Which took me some time to figure out. Needless to say, I am now happily married to another man, a good man.
Thanks for your time and sorry it is so long. Until next time.
Jessica
From: "Kayin M." (kayin_angel@hotmail.com)
To: obiwan@ghosts.org
Subject: regarding hell house
Date: Monday, November 24, 2003 2:38 AM
..or one of the hell houses.
Hi there. My name's Kayin. I went to what we thought was Hell House with a few friends. See, I'm not from Maryland, i'm from Toronto Canada. I was visiting, and we thought it would be cool to check it out.
The thing is, ever since then, i've been trying to dig up info on what the hell it was that i visited that night. It's so hard to find good pics. And people's stories are always mixing up both Old St. Mary's College and Female Potapsco Institute. I wanted to figure out which one I went to.
I believe it was the Old St. Mary's College... cause i vaguely remember something written over a main door. On one wall that was still intact, a decorative cross was in the wall made of bricks. The stairs up to the place were overgrown. The paths hard to find. Lots of smaller buildings besides the main one, all of which were overgrown with forest.
The one thing i do remember quite well is a very hidden path in the forest off to the side. We followed it and came into the remains of some kind of altar. in the middle of the forest. It was a small four pillar domed structure, with a large CROSS still under it. I've never read anything elsewhere about this cross.
Anyways, here's our story about our trip there.
In the car, down a twisty-hilly road that seemed to be so dark covered by trees overhead, we were listening to some music on CD. At the beggining of a track of a song i thought i knew pretty well, there was this deep, throaty, rumbling noise that lasted less then a second. It didn't quite seem like it was from the speakers, but the music was loud. For the first few seconds i didn't think about it, then turned to my friend Lisa in the back seat and asked her if she heard that. She said she did, and that it was strange.
The funny part to the story is this. We got to the bottom of the hill and path up to the place. Parking our car, we got our flashlights out, and a walkie-talkie. Suddenly a VAN drives by, turns around, and pulls up and parks. Out of the van comes these two STONER kids. There were other people in the back of the van (the windows were tinted but could see a kinda freaky looking face in the window). Now, these dudes reeked of POT. It was hilarious cause they asked if we were going up, had flashlights, and could tag along for a bit. We said 'sure, whatever'.
So here we are, five of us, and two stoner kids, heading up this hill to this pretty scary place. I turn to Lisa and ask her : "Doesn't this seem like the start of EVERY teen horror movie ?? I mean, we have all the characters right here. These two stoner kids will be the first to get killed off." The stoner dudes eventually went away once we got up to a set of stairs, but I couldn't help but call everyone 'GANG' every so often, and add 'ZOINKS' to the ends of sentances.
Anyways, Back to the scary parts of the night...
Once the stoner dudes were gone, we continued around the main structure. Around the side (?) of it was a door. lots of grafitti. the insides were all caved in mostly, and all that was left was the walls.
We followed what seemed to be a path deeper into the woods. up some more steps. We came upon two small houses that were very overgrown with forest.
For this whole time, i had the feeling of something behind us, and it was unsettling to be at the back, behind everyone else.
there was a path we followed that, along the way, we found an odd piling of rocks in the middle. maybe the remains of a fountain or well or something. it had a wierd metal pipe sticking from the top of it.
we followed a foot path (there were brick borders along the sides of this path) untill there were too many trees in the way to keep going. we turned back, and at this point the feeling of whatever it was behind us was now gone.
we started back to where we came from, but then Lisa noticed what no one else would have noticed. A path off to the side that was mostly covered in trees and forest. We pushed through it all, and found a wall, and followed that to steps and an entrance to the wall. past the wall, maybe 15-20 feet into the forest was the remains of an altar of some type. Four pillars supporting a dome, with a huge metal CROSS underneath it.
This place felt much diffrent then everywhere else. Quiet and safe somehow. I'm not religious, especially not christian, but i could feel the diffrence here. We stayed for a bit. I noticed that the ground under us, under the cross, while dirty, was some kind of brick pattern if i remember correctly. But the ground didn't feel 'solid'. Jumping on it moved it in a way, and sounded like it was hollow underneath. We didn't think much more of it then that however, cause the whole thing was very creepy.
We continued through past the altar, and found our way down to another path. Eventually this led us to a strange wall thing in the side of the hill. What looked like a firepit or something built into the wall in the side of the hill.
We turned back here, and tried to find our way back to the car. At this point i immediately felt something close again, and it was there that Lisa and I heard the same deep breathy grumbly noise we heard in the car. This time our friend Jim was sure he heard it too, and we obviously picked up the pace. The noise sounded very close behind us.
From there along the way back, we saw probably the same overgrown house we saw from the other side. We also got our last look at everything, and also our discovery on how easy it was to get turned about down there, and how hard it was to find the way we came into the place. Eventually we just went down a path and ended back at the car. We left, pretty creeped out, but satisfied.
No dogs, no old man. Just two stoner kids. ^_^ I wasn't sure what the 'Greenhouse' reffered too either.
It's great how every story i've read describes it diffrently. It's odd too though. Kinda spooky. I'd love to see more pics, and even a layout of the surrounding area.
Anyways. I think my original point was to find info to clarify where is where. But hope you found it all intresting.
~Kayin
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